So, one year after getting a TOP Photon, here I am again, racing the Kawada in VTA for now. I ran it in VTA all summer long, starting sometime in April. Why the switch? Well, VTA sort of fell out of favor due to the rampant Tekin speed 2.03 brought the class, and competition was light, so I geared the Photon up for 17.5, and dragged the old white and orange body out for VTA again.
The car has had a slight update since last I raced it, and it seems minor, but has made a big difference in the handling of the car. I've ground off the top of the C-Hubs and put a ball stud for the upper camber link through the top hat to significantly lengthen the upper camber link in the front. Since then, my incidents of traction rolling has drastically reduced - I do still have to be careful on VTA tires in their prime though. I've gone back to the stock steering location, but put in a good servo - Futaba BLS451. I've found that the 46mm aluminum Photon CVA's are a PERFECT fit, even with the correct spacing for the drive pin.
I won the last points series pretty handily, but I missed the opening two weeks of the current one, which leaves me vulnerable if I miss another one. The turnout is steadily improving, and several of the "fast guys" are coming back to the track. VTA is seeing 5-7 people each week, but we're due for a change soon as the 25.5 rules will get adopted in the near future (I presume after this points series).
Oh, and Matt turned a faster fast lap (12.867 to my 12.877) than I did this past week and claims it wasn't a "short lap". His VTA Photon and his driving keeps improving - I told him I may have to go back to the Photon if he keeps that up!
Friday, August 13, 2010
Friday, July 24, 2009
The end of the line for the Kawada... 0-3 for July
Well, last week marked the final race for the Kawada - at least for now. It wasn't a great week either, falling prey to stripping the rear belt and not having any power in the main. I still almost managed to finish third, but for a single boarding incident near the end of the race.
It's kind of sad too - I just put together the best handling version of the car too - I reverted to the Kawada steering after the servo debacle of the previous week, and reinstated the center support and ran my battery in the typical saddle pack fashion. Oh, and that new technology I poo-poohed in post #1 or #2... ya, I added droop screws to the arms!
I think the car can still be competitive at a lower level, but I race with some of the best, and I'm hoping to take a step up. I bit the bullet and purchased a BRAND NEW TOP Photon. Two nights ago was it's maiden voyage, and I feel the car performs much more consistantly, and I alread beat last weeks fast lap time already (by .2 seconds).
I'm going to keep on blogging the exploits of VTA - just at a different URL
http://vtaphoton.blogspot.com
Did I answer the question of being able to compete with old tech?
It's kind of sad too - I just put together the best handling version of the car too - I reverted to the Kawada steering after the servo debacle of the previous week, and reinstated the center support and ran my battery in the typical saddle pack fashion. Oh, and that new technology I poo-poohed in post #1 or #2... ya, I added droop screws to the arms!
I think the car can still be competitive at a lower level, but I race with some of the best, and I'm hoping to take a step up. I bit the bullet and purchased a BRAND NEW TOP Photon. Two nights ago was it's maiden voyage, and I feel the car performs much more consistantly, and I alread beat last weeks fast lap time already (by .2 seconds).
I'm going to keep on blogging the exploits of VTA - just at a different URL
http://vtaphoton.blogspot.com
Did I answer the question of being able to compete with old tech?
Thursday, July 9, 2009
Vintage Trans Am : 0 for 2 in July!
Well, last night was just a typical Wednesday night racing VTA at MSI. Well, typical, if by typical I mean a new/fu$#@ed up track layout, and typical if last week and this week are the start of a new trend.
To start, the track layout was unlike anything I've had the pleasure/displeasure of running on. The "straight" was actually directly below the drivers stand, and had enough obstacles to make a Ninja Warrior flinch. However, if you were brave, you could go full blast through there - John said it best "clenching [your a$$ cheeks] was worth 3 tenths".
I've drawn up how I remember the track layout - it's not exact, but the pattern and corners are all there :
The first qualifier for me has often been my quickest, and tonight it didn't disappoint as I managed a 24/5:12 right behind Kevin's 24/5:10 and both of us 2 laps down to James (why does he torture us so?). I knew avoiding marshaling was going to be key especially with how far from the marshals most of the action was, and managed to make it through this qualifier marshal-free. I used last weeks gearing of 4.5 FDR, and came off a little hotter than I prefer while lacking pull out of the corners. This run was with the Tamiya spool, and I could visibly see the car struggling in the front end on the track, but managed a fast lap of 11.9. Kevin had a fast lap of 11.5 and James was probably in the high 10's (surprise!)
Before the second qualifier, I swapped out the spool for a differential to see if the car would be any better behaved. I love running the one way, but didn't see how it would do well on this track. I also changed the gearing a bit and ran a 4.75 and drove a bit conservatively. Sometime on the 20th lap or so, the car went straight when I wanted it to go left, and I was on that stand thinking about how much threadlock I used when fixing the lost screw problem from last week as it hopped a board. I got it off the board and it drove fine back around the track to the exact same spot where again it wouldn't turn left. I left it against the board and would check it out after the race to find that I had stripped a gear inside the servo. I don't recall hitting anything of any significance, and people laughed when I told them it was the servo and showed them the Futaba S3003 from 1996 I was running. Hey, if it's not broke, don't fix it!
I spent the $14 to buy a Futaba S3004 as I didn't have any spare servo's with me. The car felt just like it did before, but I moved the end points in a bit as the Ackerman provided by the TC5 steering is a bit more than the Kawada stock unit.
I managed to qualify in third overall with my first qualifier, right behind Kevin (by about 10 seconds) and James added to the beating by turning a 27 lap run. Matt qualified fourth overall for the night and made the A-main for the second week in a row, and was the first time we met in a main!
I geared up a bit more as my fast lap time dipped down to a 12.2 (maybe I forgot to clench?), and was ready for the main. The tone went off, and somehow James had trouble with the first corner, and I was a turn or so behind Kevin when he stuffed the car in the infield as I easily went around for the lead! I had smooth sailing for a couple laps until James finally caught up and ran on my bumper for an entire lap as I was very meticulous about not opening the inside door on any turn. He finally thought he would try something going into turn 7, but I left no room, and he wound up spinning me out to which I said very loudly "Fu$#@!ng hacker - oh sorry!" to the crowds amusement as he was pulling over to let me by once I got pointed the right direction. We battled for another half a lap and then I started having steering issues again which put me all over the track before I realized what it was. I somehow managed to jump a board and land smack dab in the middle of the front straight facing exactly 180 degrees from the racing direction. I pulled the trigger, but heard nothing but the sound of a shredded spur gear as I then proceeded to watch James come through there and through my car at full speed. I was already planning on moving everything to a new chassis so I haven't had the heart to actually look to see what all was broken, but I'm sure I'll find a few things. What I did find immediately after the race that the gears inside this brand new servo were completely stripped along 90 degrees of the mating surface (right where it had been mated). One servo lasts 13 years, its replacement lasted about 4 minutes! Luckily I have a couple of metal geared Airtronics servos that I'm not currently using!
Wednesday points series starts next week, so I've got some work ahead of me to have a reliable car again. July has not been my month and I already know I'm going to have one drop when I go to Indy for GenCon, which only leaves me with one!
To start, the track layout was unlike anything I've had the pleasure/displeasure of running on. The "straight" was actually directly below the drivers stand, and had enough obstacles to make a Ninja Warrior flinch. However, if you were brave, you could go full blast through there - John said it best "clenching [your a$$ cheeks] was worth 3 tenths".
I've drawn up how I remember the track layout - it's not exact, but the pattern and corners are all there :
The first qualifier for me has often been my quickest, and tonight it didn't disappoint as I managed a 24/5:12 right behind Kevin's 24/5:10 and both of us 2 laps down to James (why does he torture us so?). I knew avoiding marshaling was going to be key especially with how far from the marshals most of the action was, and managed to make it through this qualifier marshal-free. I used last weeks gearing of 4.5 FDR, and came off a little hotter than I prefer while lacking pull out of the corners. This run was with the Tamiya spool, and I could visibly see the car struggling in the front end on the track, but managed a fast lap of 11.9. Kevin had a fast lap of 11.5 and James was probably in the high 10's (surprise!)
Before the second qualifier, I swapped out the spool for a differential to see if the car would be any better behaved. I love running the one way, but didn't see how it would do well on this track. I also changed the gearing a bit and ran a 4.75 and drove a bit conservatively. Sometime on the 20th lap or so, the car went straight when I wanted it to go left, and I was on that stand thinking about how much threadlock I used when fixing the lost screw problem from last week as it hopped a board. I got it off the board and it drove fine back around the track to the exact same spot where again it wouldn't turn left. I left it against the board and would check it out after the race to find that I had stripped a gear inside the servo. I don't recall hitting anything of any significance, and people laughed when I told them it was the servo and showed them the Futaba S3003 from 1996 I was running. Hey, if it's not broke, don't fix it!
I spent the $14 to buy a Futaba S3004 as I didn't have any spare servo's with me. The car felt just like it did before, but I moved the end points in a bit as the Ackerman provided by the TC5 steering is a bit more than the Kawada stock unit.
I managed to qualify in third overall with my first qualifier, right behind Kevin (by about 10 seconds) and James added to the beating by turning a 27 lap run. Matt qualified fourth overall for the night and made the A-main for the second week in a row, and was the first time we met in a main!
I geared up a bit more as my fast lap time dipped down to a 12.2 (maybe I forgot to clench?), and was ready for the main. The tone went off, and somehow James had trouble with the first corner, and I was a turn or so behind Kevin when he stuffed the car in the infield as I easily went around for the lead! I had smooth sailing for a couple laps until James finally caught up and ran on my bumper for an entire lap as I was very meticulous about not opening the inside door on any turn. He finally thought he would try something going into turn 7, but I left no room, and he wound up spinning me out to which I said very loudly "Fu$#@!ng hacker - oh sorry!" to the crowds amusement as he was pulling over to let me by once I got pointed the right direction. We battled for another half a lap and then I started having steering issues again which put me all over the track before I realized what it was. I somehow managed to jump a board and land smack dab in the middle of the front straight facing exactly 180 degrees from the racing direction. I pulled the trigger, but heard nothing but the sound of a shredded spur gear as I then proceeded to watch James come through there and through my car at full speed. I was already planning on moving everything to a new chassis so I haven't had the heart to actually look to see what all was broken, but I'm sure I'll find a few things. What I did find immediately after the race that the gears inside this brand new servo were completely stripped along 90 degrees of the mating surface (right where it had been mated). One servo lasts 13 years, its replacement lasted about 4 minutes! Luckily I have a couple of metal geared Airtronics servos that I'm not currently using!
Wednesday points series starts next week, so I've got some work ahead of me to have a reliable car again. July has not been my month and I already know I'm going to have one drop when I go to Indy for GenCon, which only leaves me with one!
Wednesday, July 8, 2009
Vintage Trans Am for July starts really rough!
So, I have these shiny new Tamiya parts in my car, and I'm trying out a real spool in the car. The track hasn't changed since last week - it's the third week for this layout, which should give me a good comparison since I've only changed the one way out for a spool and tamiya CVD's up front (saving about 18g of rotating mass along the way).
First qualifier starts out, and I'm hearing that I'm setting the second fastest time after about 10 laps! The car was definitely different - I don't think it was faster than usual, I just think other folks were having more problems. So, on lap twelve, my car is a little wide going down the straight, and I go to cut in for the sweeper and the car follows one of Newtons laws of motion - something about a body in motion staying in motion unless acted upon by an outside force. Well, that force was not the steering as it should have been - The steering did absolutely nothing when I turned the wheel. The force that did act on it was the outside wall of the track. It acted loudly and mercilessly on the front of the car.
When I assessed the damage, I found that the lower M3x5 screw holding the TC5 steering post in place was missing and the whole steering assembly was flapping in the wind. Also, the front body posts were both broken off at the shock tower. I searched and searched my spares box, but only had one body post spare with me. It took up until my second qualifier was about to start to get another solution rigged in place since I had to figure out what might work, and Ryan was really busy up front with working on ordering parts for someone and fixing someone else's nitro car.
I dropped the car on the track just as the second qualifier was about to start, only to hear that I lost a tooth or two on the spur in the crash as well. I didn't want to hold everyone to to take the time to change it, so I was going to just give it the old college try, and managed to get a whole lap in before it stopped completely. I pulled it off and changed the spur and got back on track to turn another 3 laps before time ran out.
I qualified dead last that night, and was in the B Main for the first time ever in VTA. Ironically, Matt snagged the final spot in the A due to this, so I still haven't raced against him in a main!
The B main was boring and uneventful. I stayed put when the tone went off and waited until everyone was almost to turn one to take off - it may have looked like a dick move, but it wasn't arrogance so much as expecting a pile up in turn one. Sure enough, by the time I got to turn one, two of the cars had wrecked and I slid right past them, and was on Bob's tail for the lead. I stayed behind him for the remainder of the lap as I couldn't make it around without risking wrecking us both. I passed him on the inside on lap two and never looked back. I even managed to avoid Tom's green 'Cuda the entire race, regardless of his best efforts, and turned an okay time of 24/5:09 being that I was over-geared. The spur I threw on was 5 teeth less than I was running in qualifier #1 and I didn't have the gears I wanted, so I left them on the car for the main.
My fast lap for the night was only an 11.7, which is down .2 from last week, but I also didn't have a chance to get in the zone like I did last week. This coming week will be a new layout, which should bring the traction down and require different gearing, so we'll see if I can put it in the top three or not.
First qualifier starts out, and I'm hearing that I'm setting the second fastest time after about 10 laps! The car was definitely different - I don't think it was faster than usual, I just think other folks were having more problems. So, on lap twelve, my car is a little wide going down the straight, and I go to cut in for the sweeper and the car follows one of Newtons laws of motion - something about a body in motion staying in motion unless acted upon by an outside force. Well, that force was not the steering as it should have been - The steering did absolutely nothing when I turned the wheel. The force that did act on it was the outside wall of the track. It acted loudly and mercilessly on the front of the car.
When I assessed the damage, I found that the lower M3x5 screw holding the TC5 steering post in place was missing and the whole steering assembly was flapping in the wind. Also, the front body posts were both broken off at the shock tower. I searched and searched my spares box, but only had one body post spare with me. It took up until my second qualifier was about to start to get another solution rigged in place since I had to figure out what might work, and Ryan was really busy up front with working on ordering parts for someone and fixing someone else's nitro car.
I dropped the car on the track just as the second qualifier was about to start, only to hear that I lost a tooth or two on the spur in the crash as well. I didn't want to hold everyone to to take the time to change it, so I was going to just give it the old college try, and managed to get a whole lap in before it stopped completely. I pulled it off and changed the spur and got back on track to turn another 3 laps before time ran out.
I qualified dead last that night, and was in the B Main for the first time ever in VTA. Ironically, Matt snagged the final spot in the A due to this, so I still haven't raced against him in a main!
The B main was boring and uneventful. I stayed put when the tone went off and waited until everyone was almost to turn one to take off - it may have looked like a dick move, but it wasn't arrogance so much as expecting a pile up in turn one. Sure enough, by the time I got to turn one, two of the cars had wrecked and I slid right past them, and was on Bob's tail for the lead. I stayed behind him for the remainder of the lap as I couldn't make it around without risking wrecking us both. I passed him on the inside on lap two and never looked back. I even managed to avoid Tom's green 'Cuda the entire race, regardless of his best efforts, and turned an okay time of 24/5:09 being that I was over-geared. The spur I threw on was 5 teeth less than I was running in qualifier #1 and I didn't have the gears I wanted, so I left them on the car for the main.
My fast lap for the night was only an 11.7, which is down .2 from last week, but I also didn't have a chance to get in the zone like I did last week. This coming week will be a new layout, which should bring the traction down and require different gearing, so we'll see if I can put it in the top three or not.
Wednesday, July 1, 2009
Tamiya parts go/no-go?
Well, I got the Tamiya parts in the mail!
The bad news? I pretty much struck out on what I ordered.
The Tamiya axles (53939) for the 415 turned out to be the wrong ones - the drive pin was inside the hub when fully seated.
The rear belt, even with the rear tensioner all the way engaged, was still too loose to propel the car without slipping.
The 44mm swingshafts (54077) were too short to mate with the Kawada differential or one-way.
I did manage to make some trades and acquire axles for a 416, which were the proper fit (with 2 shims). Then, I did a lot of clearancing, and was able to get the 416 Spool with the TAO5 wide pitch pulley on the front of the car without binding. This configuration allowed the use of the 44mm swingshafts. The front belt was a fit (if a bit loose) so I was able to use the whole front end assembly eventually!
The rear end is still all Kawada, and I have two choices : I can order 46mm swingshafts as the 44's are just a bit too short, or I can put a 416 differential in the rear. The rear diff in the Kawada is a delrin diff and is really smooth with the ceramic nitride balls in it, so I'm hesitant to spend $50 or so on a diff that may or may not improve the car. I can get the swingshafts online for between $30 and $40 after shipping, which doesn't thrill me either, so I'm currently not doing either as the rear CVD's are in decent shape (for now).
The bad news? I pretty much struck out on what I ordered.
The Tamiya axles (53939) for the 415 turned out to be the wrong ones - the drive pin was inside the hub when fully seated.
The rear belt, even with the rear tensioner all the way engaged, was still too loose to propel the car without slipping.
The 44mm swingshafts (54077) were too short to mate with the Kawada differential or one-way.
I did manage to make some trades and acquire axles for a 416, which were the proper fit (with 2 shims). Then, I did a lot of clearancing, and was able to get the 416 Spool with the TAO5 wide pitch pulley on the front of the car without binding. This configuration allowed the use of the 44mm swingshafts. The front belt was a fit (if a bit loose) so I was able to use the whole front end assembly eventually!
The rear end is still all Kawada, and I have two choices : I can order 46mm swingshafts as the 44's are just a bit too short, or I can put a 416 differential in the rear. The rear diff in the Kawada is a delrin diff and is really smooth with the ceramic nitride balls in it, so I'm hesitant to spend $50 or so on a diff that may or may not improve the car. I can get the swingshafts online for between $30 and $40 after shipping, which doesn't thrill me either, so I'm currently not doing either as the rear CVD's are in decent shape (for now).
Monday, June 29, 2009
VTA for fun (and profit? not!) - Tamiya parts arrive!
So, the points series is on hiatus for a couple weeks to give folks a breather, and it's back to racing for glory (only)!
I wound up racing Friday and again this past wednesday - The track layout hasn't changed from the last week of the points, so I don't really touch the car. Friday was good, we were racing while massive storms raged outside. MSI has these really high warehouse windows, and the lightning flashing across the black sky through wthose windows looked very evil-scientist-movie-esque! I managed to drop my fast lap time down to an 11.58 or so, and wound up handing the radio to Dave to drive the main. It looked a little loose - I may have put the traction compound on a bit too soon (as I was going to get dinner), and he wound up finishing just ahead of Marc, but managed only an 11.7.
Anyway, Wednesday was more of the same - I made some small corrections to the droop on the suspension arms, but otherwise changed nothing. It was a low turnout night, only 8 guys, 5 of whom were going to be in the A. I hit 25 laps on my first qualifier, and then 24 in the second and 24 again in the main *hmmmm*. In the main, I got some intense racing with Kevin and his TC5, and dropped my fast lap down to 11.504 - Kevin hit 11.496 for a fast lap. The car may be a handful to drive, but I feel really in tune with it now.
Today, the Tamiya parts I've ordered have arrived - I'm like a kid at Christmas waiting to get home and work on the car. In my posession, I have a 416WE spool to mate to a low friction 36T one-way pulley from a TA05 to create a spool with the same number of teetch as the Kawada diffs have. I have a 416WE low friction front belt, a 416 (normal) rear belt which is 1 tooth/3mm longer than the Kawada belt. I have four 44mm lightweight swing shafts with matching lightweight axles and all the crossjoints needed to build them. Essentially, the entire driveline from a 416WE is going into my car. I will do some weight comparisons of the components for grins as this was not just to replace wearing parts, it was to reduce rotating mass and free up the drivetrain!
Yes, it looks like a Tamiya store exploded at my desk!
I wound up racing Friday and again this past wednesday - The track layout hasn't changed from the last week of the points, so I don't really touch the car. Friday was good, we were racing while massive storms raged outside. MSI has these really high warehouse windows, and the lightning flashing across the black sky through wthose windows looked very evil-scientist-movie-esque! I managed to drop my fast lap time down to an 11.58 or so, and wound up handing the radio to Dave to drive the main. It looked a little loose - I may have put the traction compound on a bit too soon (as I was going to get dinner), and he wound up finishing just ahead of Marc, but managed only an 11.7.
Anyway, Wednesday was more of the same - I made some small corrections to the droop on the suspension arms, but otherwise changed nothing. It was a low turnout night, only 8 guys, 5 of whom were going to be in the A. I hit 25 laps on my first qualifier, and then 24 in the second and 24 again in the main *hmmmm*. In the main, I got some intense racing with Kevin and his TC5, and dropped my fast lap down to 11.504 - Kevin hit 11.496 for a fast lap. The car may be a handful to drive, but I feel really in tune with it now.
Today, the Tamiya parts I've ordered have arrived - I'm like a kid at Christmas waiting to get home and work on the car. In my posession, I have a 416WE spool to mate to a low friction 36T one-way pulley from a TA05 to create a spool with the same number of teetch as the Kawada diffs have. I have a 416WE low friction front belt, a 416 (normal) rear belt which is 1 tooth/3mm longer than the Kawada belt. I have four 44mm lightweight swing shafts with matching lightweight axles and all the crossjoints needed to build them. Essentially, the entire driveline from a 416WE is going into my car. I will do some weight comparisons of the components for grins as this was not just to replace wearing parts, it was to reduce rotating mass and free up the drivetrain!
Yes, it looks like a Tamiya store exploded at my desk!
Thursday, June 18, 2009
VTA points week #8 - the final week!
Week #8, the final week and I'm sitting in fourth, but Jeff in third has been seen nowhere, and may wind up having a third goose-egg which would essentially eliminate him from contention.
I got there early so I could work on the car using the setup board I had made. It's 7 layer 1/2" birch-veneered plywood, and was the platform of the first cross-cut sled I made for my table saw. It's pretty flat and stable, but I forsee 1/2" or 3/4" melamine in my future. Last week I had added massive negative camber to over-compensate for the traction rolling I had been doing. I took that out and set a nice 2 degrees at each corner. I then re-glued the outside lip of every tire AGAIN as one of them had apparently peeled in the main last week. I had plenty of time and took it out for a few laps on the new track layout and it was sliding just a bit, but showed no signs of wanting to go over! I chose a taller gear (4.5 FDR) and just relaxed and chatting with Dave, Matt and Kevin until qualifying.
The first qualifier was mediocre and I had a few issues on the track and the car started to feel awkward to me after that, like it was slowing or rubbing or something just wasn't right. I turned 24 laps, which was still fifth fastest, but a ways off the pace. My fast lap time was a 12.0.
In the pit after the qualifier, I spotted the problem - the same tire had broken the bead again. Since I had nearly an hour, I glued it once on the inside, once just under the lip 15 minutes later, and finally a ring all the way around. Sadly the tire had a bit of a "lump" to it, but I flattened it out best I could. I geared up as I was being run down in the straight still but didn't change a thing otherwise.
The second qualifier was damn good for me and was incident free! I slotted up to a 25/5:06, which was good enough to qualify fourth in a TOUGH field. With James, John & Mike ahead of me, but Kevin, Greg & Jeff behind me for the main.
I touched nothing for the main even though I felt I was slightly overgeared. It was a VERY rough start, and was the exact opposite of last week. The pile up happend in turn three again, but as Mike was being Mike and pulling out of the pile up, he punted my car through the turn and halfway over the board leading to the straight. I was able to drive off of it and rejoin the race in dead last. From there it was just a matter of driving down folks, and I had worked my up a few positions thanks to other folks having mishaps and keeping my own race just as clean as could be. I battled with Jeff for a while to maintain fifth, and eventually pulled away and past a rolled-over Kevin to take fourth. It was smooth sailing until about 30 second to go, I've got a 2.5 second lead on Kevin and James comes up to lap me. I let him by in the second to last turn of the lap, and just as he gets by, he bobbles and hits the board , and I hit him, which of course, sends my car upside down (remind me to use lighter paint next time), letting Kevin past me. I finish in fifth, a bit dejected from that and the fact that trophys and prizes are only for 1st through 3rd.
I don't forsee a new car in my future anytime soon due to the $400+ price tag for any new machine I would consider. I may pick up a used one though - John's Tamiya 415 MSXX is a tempting bit of kit, but I still enjoy giving people a run for their money with an eleven year old car.
Sidenote - Why am I being passed in the straight by Greg, who is using the same speedo, motor, battery and using a taller FDR than me? I think that's a function of the driveline having too much drag in it. I checked out his car a couple weeks ago and you spin the rear wheels together and the drivetrain continues to spin for a while - mine comes to a pretty quick halt. I tore the car apart to work on the bearings and individually, the rear diff, center layshaft, and front one-way all spin very freely, but as soon as I throw the belts on, it comes to a grinding halt - mostly it's the rear axle/belt. I believe I will be ordering a set of low friction belts for a Tamiya 416 WE soon. The front belt is the exact same length, and the rear belt is one tooth longer, which should free it up a bit - and if the belt is too loose, I do have a rear tensioner I can use. I think I will also be ordering Tamiya 44mm lightweight CVD's and outdrives at the same time to reduce the rotating mass by a bit, not to mention the front driveshafts are starting to wear a bit. A 416WE spool with a TA05 18 tooth low friction pulley should also drop right into my car to further reduce the rotating mass.
I'm still tempted to get the BOCA bearing ceramic bearing kit for the car, but that's $120 I'll wait to spend...
Next week : Non-points series racing. I do hope people still show up!
I got there early so I could work on the car using the setup board I had made. It's 7 layer 1/2" birch-veneered plywood, and was the platform of the first cross-cut sled I made for my table saw. It's pretty flat and stable, but I forsee 1/2" or 3/4" melamine in my future. Last week I had added massive negative camber to over-compensate for the traction rolling I had been doing. I took that out and set a nice 2 degrees at each corner. I then re-glued the outside lip of every tire AGAIN as one of them had apparently peeled in the main last week. I had plenty of time and took it out for a few laps on the new track layout and it was sliding just a bit, but showed no signs of wanting to go over! I chose a taller gear (4.5 FDR) and just relaxed and chatting with Dave, Matt and Kevin until qualifying.
The first qualifier was mediocre and I had a few issues on the track and the car started to feel awkward to me after that, like it was slowing or rubbing or something just wasn't right. I turned 24 laps, which was still fifth fastest, but a ways off the pace. My fast lap time was a 12.0.
In the pit after the qualifier, I spotted the problem - the same tire had broken the bead again. Since I had nearly an hour, I glued it once on the inside, once just under the lip 15 minutes later, and finally a ring all the way around. Sadly the tire had a bit of a "lump" to it, but I flattened it out best I could. I geared up as I was being run down in the straight still but didn't change a thing otherwise.
The second qualifier was damn good for me and was incident free! I slotted up to a 25/5:06, which was good enough to qualify fourth in a TOUGH field. With James, John & Mike ahead of me, but Kevin, Greg & Jeff behind me for the main.
I touched nothing for the main even though I felt I was slightly overgeared. It was a VERY rough start, and was the exact opposite of last week. The pile up happend in turn three again, but as Mike was being Mike and pulling out of the pile up, he punted my car through the turn and halfway over the board leading to the straight. I was able to drive off of it and rejoin the race in dead last. From there it was just a matter of driving down folks, and I had worked my up a few positions thanks to other folks having mishaps and keeping my own race just as clean as could be. I battled with Jeff for a while to maintain fifth, and eventually pulled away and past a rolled-over Kevin to take fourth. It was smooth sailing until about 30 second to go, I've got a 2.5 second lead on Kevin and James comes up to lap me. I let him by in the second to last turn of the lap, and just as he gets by, he bobbles and hits the board , and I hit him, which of course, sends my car upside down (remind me to use lighter paint next time), letting Kevin past me. I finish in fifth, a bit dejected from that and the fact that trophys and prizes are only for 1st through 3rd.
I don't forsee a new car in my future anytime soon due to the $400+ price tag for any new machine I would consider. I may pick up a used one though - John's Tamiya 415 MSXX is a tempting bit of kit, but I still enjoy giving people a run for their money with an eleven year old car.
Sidenote - Why am I being passed in the straight by Greg, who is using the same speedo, motor, battery and using a taller FDR than me? I think that's a function of the driveline having too much drag in it. I checked out his car a couple weeks ago and you spin the rear wheels together and the drivetrain continues to spin for a while - mine comes to a pretty quick halt. I tore the car apart to work on the bearings and individually, the rear diff, center layshaft, and front one-way all spin very freely, but as soon as I throw the belts on, it comes to a grinding halt - mostly it's the rear axle/belt. I believe I will be ordering a set of low friction belts for a Tamiya 416 WE soon. The front belt is the exact same length, and the rear belt is one tooth longer, which should free it up a bit - and if the belt is too loose, I do have a rear tensioner I can use. I think I will also be ordering Tamiya 44mm lightweight CVD's and outdrives at the same time to reduce the rotating mass by a bit, not to mention the front driveshafts are starting to wear a bit. A 416WE spool with a TA05 18 tooth low friction pulley should also drop right into my car to further reduce the rotating mass.
I'm still tempted to get the BOCA bearing ceramic bearing kit for the car, but that's $120 I'll wait to spend...
Next week : Non-points series racing. I do hope people still show up!
Thursday, June 11, 2009
VTA points week #7
Week #7 was the penultimate week for the current points series and going into it, I was tied for fourth with Bob running his XRay 007 Mustang.
Having raced the previous Friday with freshly cleaned off tires, I was still worried about traction rolling. I moved the lead weight that was outboard of the motor to the center of the chassis directly below the antenna to get it more centered as I tipped the car going both right AND left. I also added crazy camber to the car to try and get a bit more slide in the corners.
I banged out a pretty good qualifier in round #1. I had just one incident, but was it a doozy - I flipped in the middle of the track, and watched as the marshall waddled over to the car, bent as little as he good, and flipped the car over byt he end of the body (ya, it was the big guy) - for a stunning lap of ~20 seconds. My lap times for most of my laps were high 10's to low 11's, so that was nearly a full ap lost, and I still finished with a 27/5:05 if I remember correctly, still not making the 28 laps, but damn close. Fast lap for me - 10.5.
The Second qualifier was really strange, the car was back to traction rolling! I did that once or twice and the car started to feel strange to me. I heard Mark tell me to pull my car off the track as it had ripped the new carpet - DOH! Sure enough, right in the middle of the sweeper, the carpet had a small square standing straight up. He said something about my body posts, but they were rounded on the top (thanks to Kevin breaking both of them when hitting me in qualifier #2 the Friday before), and to this day I don't recall rolling the car in that turn when he called it, and have no idea how it happened, or if it was even me. Regardless, I felt bad about it.
In the pits before the main, I went over everything on my car - the body posts, the chassis screws, and the lower part of the body and couldn't find any answers. I did find just a bit of rubber on the left side of the chassis, so I gave all the shock collars a tweak to stiffen them up a bit. I cranked in additional negative camber on all the wheels and superglued the outside bead of every tire.
I made the A-main based on my 1st round qualifier and was even starting fifth. Both Bob's made the A this week, first time Bob Z. made the A ever in VTA. It was an interesting race - the tone went off and we all went through turn one and two and a giant pile up in turn three found everyone in front of me on their lid or against a board or facing the wrong way as I drove through them all! I lead that lap and the next and was over-adrenalized and tapped an inside board, sending the car onto its lid (god I hate that about these bodies) letting three by me in the process. Running in fourth is a much easier experience and the rest of my race was uneventful. I think John won just ahead of either Mike or Greg and I finished fourth, ahead of Bob, which broke our tie for fourth in the points.
Having raced the previous Friday with freshly cleaned off tires, I was still worried about traction rolling. I moved the lead weight that was outboard of the motor to the center of the chassis directly below the antenna to get it more centered as I tipped the car going both right AND left. I also added crazy camber to the car to try and get a bit more slide in the corners.
I banged out a pretty good qualifier in round #1. I had just one incident, but was it a doozy - I flipped in the middle of the track, and watched as the marshall waddled over to the car, bent as little as he good, and flipped the car over byt he end of the body (ya, it was the big guy) - for a stunning lap of ~20 seconds. My lap times for most of my laps were high 10's to low 11's, so that was nearly a full ap lost, and I still finished with a 27/5:05 if I remember correctly, still not making the 28 laps, but damn close. Fast lap for me - 10.5.
The Second qualifier was really strange, the car was back to traction rolling! I did that once or twice and the car started to feel strange to me. I heard Mark tell me to pull my car off the track as it had ripped the new carpet - DOH! Sure enough, right in the middle of the sweeper, the carpet had a small square standing straight up. He said something about my body posts, but they were rounded on the top (thanks to Kevin breaking both of them when hitting me in qualifier #2 the Friday before), and to this day I don't recall rolling the car in that turn when he called it, and have no idea how it happened, or if it was even me. Regardless, I felt bad about it.
In the pits before the main, I went over everything on my car - the body posts, the chassis screws, and the lower part of the body and couldn't find any answers. I did find just a bit of rubber on the left side of the chassis, so I gave all the shock collars a tweak to stiffen them up a bit. I cranked in additional negative camber on all the wheels and superglued the outside bead of every tire.
I made the A-main based on my 1st round qualifier and was even starting fifth. Both Bob's made the A this week, first time Bob Z. made the A ever in VTA. It was an interesting race - the tone went off and we all went through turn one and two and a giant pile up in turn three found everyone in front of me on their lid or against a board or facing the wrong way as I drove through them all! I lead that lap and the next and was over-adrenalized and tapped an inside board, sending the car onto its lid (god I hate that about these bodies) letting three by me in the process. Running in fourth is a much easier experience and the rest of my race was uneventful. I think John won just ahead of either Mike or Greg and I finished fourth, ahead of Bob, which broke our tie for fourth in the points.
Monday, June 8, 2009
VTA LiPo/21.5 Pics
So, I guess I'm not necessarily running old-tech anymore except for the chassis itself. I am now outpacing a couple of drivers I noted were really giving me a run for my money when I ran 4cell/27t by a couple laps!
Got the pics of the unusual layout I came up with for the Kawada to run in VTA. The car is perfectly balanced left to right without adding any weight (when counting a 15g transponder), however the lead on the chasis is to try and help that side stay down on the high speed sweeper at our track. I need to get the car to stay rubber side down when I'm really pushing it.
Ran on Friday last week too. Cleaned the rubber off the tires and got the car turning quite a bit better - too well in fact as it's going lid-over when I push it hard... I did improve from Wednesday though and was on a 28/5:08 pace in qualifier #3 before boarding it with about 20 seconds to go - would have been good for third fastest. In the main I was pushing hard battling to stay ahead of Kevin and heard a 10.5 called out - sadly the printer was out of toner for me to verify this. May add more weight just to keep the car off its lid.
Got the pics of the unusual layout I came up with for the Kawada to run in VTA. The car is perfectly balanced left to right without adding any weight (when counting a 15g transponder), however the lead on the chasis is to try and help that side stay down on the high speed sweeper at our track. I need to get the car to stay rubber side down when I'm really pushing it.
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Ran on Friday last week too. Cleaned the rubber off the tires and got the car turning quite a bit better - too well in fact as it's going lid-over when I push it hard... I did improve from Wednesday though and was on a 28/5:08 pace in qualifier #3 before boarding it with about 20 seconds to go - would have been good for third fastest. In the main I was pushing hard battling to stay ahead of Kevin and heard a 10.5 called out - sadly the printer was out of toner for me to verify this. May add more weight just to keep the car off its lid.
Thursday, June 4, 2009
VTA points week #6
I got a chance to run my "new" setup for the first time, so I got there as early as I could to get a few laps of practice in and make any tuning changes. The car pushed quite a bit and I upped the Dual Rate up to 94 so it would make it around turns. Sadly, I don't actually know what my D/R was at last week as I inadvertantly left my radio on, killing 8 NiMH's and in the process it adjusted my steering trim 75R and my DR down to 0. It was odd, turn the car on and the wheels go to the right and don't turn - I thought the servo had been toasted or something.
I chose not to change the setup for the first qualifier as I thought I could just sauce the whole front tire, instead of just half, and slow down a bit before the turns. Qualifier #1 was horrible. The car pushed in one turn and was loose in the next - it just wasn't handling in a manner I was comfortable with. After that qualifier I swapped the B's in the Rear for D's and the C's in the front for E's and re-adjusted my ride height and droop. After a bit of testing, I was very happy with this change, and I've geared down just a touch from a 4.28 to a 4.35 FDR.
Qualifier two started out great! I caught a few guys, and was on a 27 lap pace until I made three stupid driving errors trying to put the car on a tight line and going too tight. I finished with a 25/5.01 but the A-main cutoff was 25 laps luckily, and I was started last - my favorite place to start! I had turned a 10.7 in this qualifier and was running individual lap times well - the fastest lap was turned by James at a 10.1. Bob, who I have been having good times with racing and on the stand and I was tied with in the points series, crashed out of his second qualifier and really only had his 24 lap qualifier to count, did not make the A.
I geared back up for the main, there were seven of us, starting in the sideways grid pattern, odds on the outside wall, evens on the inside wall. The tone goes off, and the TQ (James) is just sitting there, as am I. I take off, blow by him still sitting there and through the first and second turns, going around Al who was tangled in something. James took off just behind me and spun my car going into turn three - thanks bud! After dropping back to dead last, I was left to run my own race, only getting back past Al due to him flipping. He came back and was able to get back around me - cleanly, thank you! I was getting lapped by James, who went from dead last to leading in fairly short order, and he came up behind me going into turn one. I decided I was going to hold my lines and, in turn, him for a while to see if he would choose to drive through me. My faith in humanity was restored when I finally let him by six turns later without him getting impatient or trying a move that was doomed to failure. The whole rest of the race was rather un-interesting - in a good way. Other than Al flipping, I don't think anyone, myself included, needed any marshalling. I didn't board the car, I didn't hit anything, and the traction rolling of last week was a distant memory! I placed poorly, finishing sixth out of seven (only because Mark broke something in the Tamiya), but I finished with a 27/5.08 or so, almost two laps faster than my qualifying time! I felt awesome after that race though! I did find out after the race that my lap times were down from the second qualifier, and talking to Greg, who finished second running the same ESC and similar batteries (just on a newer car), he was geared at a 4.45. I went up and now I think I should have gone down a bit more.
I might be racing Friday this week too - could be fun as I know the track layout well and where to gear! I have to be careful though, the last time I felt this good about a result, the next time I raced I crashed and nearly literlly burned - In the main, the battery shifted, one cell shorted out against the motor and got really hot and expanded and was no longer usable, making the whole pack useless until I found a use for a 4-cell pack.
I chose not to change the setup for the first qualifier as I thought I could just sauce the whole front tire, instead of just half, and slow down a bit before the turns. Qualifier #1 was horrible. The car pushed in one turn and was loose in the next - it just wasn't handling in a manner I was comfortable with. After that qualifier I swapped the B's in the Rear for D's and the C's in the front for E's and re-adjusted my ride height and droop. After a bit of testing, I was very happy with this change, and I've geared down just a touch from a 4.28 to a 4.35 FDR.
Qualifier two started out great! I caught a few guys, and was on a 27 lap pace until I made three stupid driving errors trying to put the car on a tight line and going too tight. I finished with a 25/5.01 but the A-main cutoff was 25 laps luckily, and I was started last - my favorite place to start! I had turned a 10.7 in this qualifier and was running individual lap times well - the fastest lap was turned by James at a 10.1. Bob, who I have been having good times with racing and on the stand and I was tied with in the points series, crashed out of his second qualifier and really only had his 24 lap qualifier to count, did not make the A.
I geared back up for the main, there were seven of us, starting in the sideways grid pattern, odds on the outside wall, evens on the inside wall. The tone goes off, and the TQ (James) is just sitting there, as am I. I take off, blow by him still sitting there and through the first and second turns, going around Al who was tangled in something. James took off just behind me and spun my car going into turn three - thanks bud! After dropping back to dead last, I was left to run my own race, only getting back past Al due to him flipping. He came back and was able to get back around me - cleanly, thank you! I was getting lapped by James, who went from dead last to leading in fairly short order, and he came up behind me going into turn one. I decided I was going to hold my lines and, in turn, him for a while to see if he would choose to drive through me. My faith in humanity was restored when I finally let him by six turns later without him getting impatient or trying a move that was doomed to failure. The whole rest of the race was rather un-interesting - in a good way. Other than Al flipping, I don't think anyone, myself included, needed any marshalling. I didn't board the car, I didn't hit anything, and the traction rolling of last week was a distant memory! I placed poorly, finishing sixth out of seven (only because Mark broke something in the Tamiya), but I finished with a 27/5.08 or so, almost two laps faster than my qualifying time! I felt awesome after that race though! I did find out after the race that my lap times were down from the second qualifier, and talking to Greg, who finished second running the same ESC and similar batteries (just on a newer car), he was geared at a 4.45. I went up and now I think I should have gone down a bit more.
I might be racing Friday this week too - could be fun as I know the track layout well and where to gear! I have to be careful though, the last time I felt this good about a result, the next time I raced I crashed and nearly literlly burned - In the main, the battery shifted, one cell shorted out against the motor and got really hot and expanded and was no longer usable, making the whole pack useless until I found a use for a 4-cell pack.
Tuesday, June 2, 2009
Kawada VTA car 1.5
So, this continued traction rolling of the Kawada with a LiPo in it has me scrambling to come up with a solution. I've shelved the 13.5 car - which had some unique hop-up parts on it - and stolen the Yokomo shocks, the rear toe adjustment piece, the lightweight aluminum locking nuts for the wheels, and the rear belt tensioner and installed them all on the VTA car. I've gone to softer springs now as there is absolutely no rubber on the bottom of the chassis, telling me it's probably grabbing the side of the tire and rolling as opposed to using up the suspension first. I've revised the ride height downward to be 5.35mm rear and 5.25mm front, and have taken out front caster by flattening the mounting position of the lower arm. Lastly, I have added my own upper link holes in the front and rear shock towers so the upper links are as long as physically possible (quite a bit longer than possible with the stock mounting locations) and also made them parallel to the lower arms at the current ride height.
(Pics forthcoming...)
That may not completely solve it, but I think the car has gone under weight by a bit which means I will be adding some lead weights onto the lower deck of the chassis which will lower the CG a bit and may stabilize the car.
(Pics forthcoming...)
That may not completely solve it, but I think the car has gone under weight by a bit which means I will be adding some lead weights onto the lower deck of the chassis which will lower the CG a bit and may stabilize the car.
VTA points week #5
I know it's almost time for VTA points week #6, but having been traveling a lot lately has gotten me behind on a lot of things that need to be done, and updating this was way down the list of things to do.
Week #5 was the first week the car was running the LiPo with the Novak 21.5 BL motor. I keep it on the down-low too, keeping the car covered and talking about the 27t running strong for the first qualifier :) I smoked the first qualifier and was on a 26/5:08 pace (which was only about 6 seconds behind the TQ pace for that qualifier) until I was passing John who unintentionally boarded me and I lost about 3/4 of a lap due to being boarded in the corner with the slowest marshal at the track. It's not that he wasn't doing his job or wasn't paying attention, he's just larger, older, and moves a little slow (but damn can he drive a 12th scale!). Wound up with a low 25 lapper, not bad, but not great.
Second qualifier is what I'll call karma coming back as I rapidly came up to pass John in this qualifier, and just like qualifier #1 we tagged, but this time it was he that wound up on the losing end. It was a great qualifier, but I somehow traction rolled the car in the sweeper (shades of every test with a lipo in the Kawada), which threw me off for a few laps, but I wound up with a 26/5:10 or so and was the third fastest qualifier for the class.
I had some balance issues in the main due to fiddling with my radio - I moved the EPA for the throttle and brake up to 120% because I can't get the thing to stop even with full brakes applied. Well, that change really altered how the drag brake got applied and I lifted to avoid the back of someones car going into turn #1 and the car locked up the rears and spun sideways, getting me tagged. Three traction rolls through the race later and I'm still challenging Bob's Mustang for third when he makes an unforced error and I take home third, which puts Bob and I into a tie in the points series.
Week #5 was the first week the car was running the LiPo with the Novak 21.5 BL motor. I keep it on the down-low too, keeping the car covered and talking about the 27t running strong for the first qualifier :) I smoked the first qualifier and was on a 26/5:08 pace (which was only about 6 seconds behind the TQ pace for that qualifier) until I was passing John who unintentionally boarded me and I lost about 3/4 of a lap due to being boarded in the corner with the slowest marshal at the track. It's not that he wasn't doing his job or wasn't paying attention, he's just larger, older, and moves a little slow (but damn can he drive a 12th scale!). Wound up with a low 25 lapper, not bad, but not great.
Second qualifier is what I'll call karma coming back as I rapidly came up to pass John in this qualifier, and just like qualifier #1 we tagged, but this time it was he that wound up on the losing end. It was a great qualifier, but I somehow traction rolled the car in the sweeper (shades of every test with a lipo in the Kawada), which threw me off for a few laps, but I wound up with a 26/5:10 or so and was the third fastest qualifier for the class.
I had some balance issues in the main due to fiddling with my radio - I moved the EPA for the throttle and brake up to 120% because I can't get the thing to stop even with full brakes applied. Well, that change really altered how the drag brake got applied and I lifted to avoid the back of someones car going into turn #1 and the car locked up the rears and spun sideways, getting me tagged. Three traction rolls through the race later and I'm still challenging Bob's Mustang for third when he makes an unforced error and I take home third, which puts Bob and I into a tie in the points series.
Thursday, May 21, 2009
VTA points week #4
Another week in and out! Not much has changed in VTA, but my longtime friend Matt has now joined the sport, and I believe we are the only two guys left in the class running the 4 cell 27T combo. Both Bob's have switched (one from a 1s 13.5, one from a 4 cell 27T), Mark's dad looks to have switched. Allan might be on 4cell, I haven't asked. I still managed to qualify 6th for the A main behind John, Mark, Jeff, Bob & Doug, but ahead of Allan and another John. The race went well, Mark and John were battling for the lead but Mark's car sounded god-awful and he was laughing about losing his spur gear, but was still battling with John for almost 3 minutes before the noise became a brain-numbing screeching and the car came to a stop. I was running in third behind John & Jeff (one lap down) up until about 30 seconds to go when Bob came up behind me and ran through the back of my car to get around instead of actually trying to pass and then just kept on driving. I closed back on him, but the half lap he took from me was too much to make up in the final half minute.
John with his Team Magic Camaro took the day followed by Jeff in his fat XXX-S Cuda and Bob in the Tamiya Mustang.
In the B-Main, Matt, on his first night out, with the coolest looking VTA car on the track (see my post from 2 days ago :D ) took home the win! He had to beat Bob driving a new car that looked pretty racy, and had to navigate around the Camaro-hating Tom in his bright green Cuda - The same Tom who seemed to always drive right into me when I was in the same qualifier as him. I actually got to watch Tom in the main and he seems to do a decent job driving his car when there are no other cars around, but as soon as there's another car in the vicinity, he went off line and steered right into the other car almost every time.
John with his Team Magic Camaro took the day followed by Jeff in his fat XXX-S Cuda and Bob in the Tamiya Mustang.
In the B-Main, Matt, on his first night out, with the coolest looking VTA car on the track (see my post from 2 days ago :D ) took home the win! He had to beat Bob driving a new car that looked pretty racy, and had to navigate around the Camaro-hating Tom in his bright green Cuda - The same Tom who seemed to always drive right into me when I was in the same qualifier as him. I actually got to watch Tom in the main and he seems to do a decent job driving his car when there are no other cars around, but as soon as there's another car in the vicinity, he went off line and steered right into the other car almost every time.
Tuesday, May 19, 2009
Airbrush Work
I finished my first "airbrushed" body tonight for Matt.
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Lots of work and many coats of paint... Having done a complex paintjob now, it seems to me that masking is the biggest consideration when deciding the order in which colors get applied. For instance, the number circles on Matt's body were white, ringed in black. Typical RC body painting says you paint the darkest colors first, but the black rings were the second to last things I painted - the last being the white circle itself. In theory, I guess I could have cut a negative circle mask, put the smaller circle inside that and started there, but it felt a lot more convenient to just lay down a circle mask, and paint around it, and then let the paint be my mask... The same holds true for the stripe on the car - the stripe is actually the same blue used for the main body of the car, it's just backed in black instead to white. I would have had to lay down the blue over the entire car, then mask off the stripe, laying tape over fresh paint (which worries me), then do my backing in white, then back the stripe in black... My way took a little extra time due to the number of color changes I did (9 "layers").
I look forward to painting the next body and improving
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